Post Archive, Chatterbox - Feb 2001 thru May 2001

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By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Sorry Fred, I hafta cancel =( I got slapped with a big project and hafta delay the field trip for now.

How's next friday sound?

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Okay, it is Sunday AM and the first few flakes of the predicted 'nor'easter' have flurried down. I have read two seperate predictions, one each for bordering counties and we'll apparently have anything from mixed precipitaion with possible accumulation to blizzard conditions tonight. Any bets? Books close at 5 tonight.

Oh, Nat, I'll have some time off in September if you want to go museuming then :) But I think we'll be going to the Crayola factory for the despot's birthday though.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Ooooooh! Cool! Crayola! Where is it? I wanna go too!! (I'm NOT joking). By the way, there's also the museum of natural history for little baby uberman, think he'd enjoy it- with all those big dinosaur skeletons and that life-size blue whale model in their marine life room... Ah, memories- it's been a while. There's also the Hayden Planetarium over there- lotsa cool stuff!

September... Man, that's quite a wait =)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

The Crayola Factory is in the Stroudsbeurg area of Penn. I was there a few months ago when they had an exibit of the Jim Henson Shop (very cool).

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Crayola is in Easton PA - I think its $8 for chronological grown-ups to enter. I'll let you know when and if we go :)

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Weird Al got married!
http://www.weirdal.com/gallery.htm

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

OHMIGOD! She's cute, he did pretty well for himself =) Anyway, it's about time =)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Uggghhhhhh.....

Brain hurts... Need sleep, brain melting, mouth drooling, body collapsing...

I just can't do all-nighters anymore. I think I burnt out my minimal-sleep-mode ability at RIT, come to think of it my entire experience there felt like one perpetual all-nighter. I'm not looking forward to reinstalling ALL my software tonite, I must sleep at some point.

I'm trying to study MEL scripting at the moment and I keep nodding off. If I do keep my eyes open long enough to read anything my brain refuses to absorb it.

Must stay awake....

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

ah, gwone, sleep.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

So Fred- u going wit me to the museum tomorrow? It doesn't look like I'll have to cancel this time =)

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Aw, c'mon. I'm having THE most boring day and none of you buggers are entertaining me. Lets get on the stick out there. Shall I be forced to some other web site - heaven forfend!

Just for that, I'm gonna go re-read Shadowrun posts and work out something for Dallas to do :p

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Well, I've noticed that just about NOBODY posts here except Faye, Damien, Fred, (occasionally that guy with good taste, Bryan) and I. To top it off, I rarely see anyone posting here for fun, or even just to chat about whatever. I think that's kinda sad.

I would have entertained you had I been in the office today =) Today was my Metropolitan trip (and I got paid for it too!). It was very beautiful, lovely, romantic, etc. Lots of couples hang out in the gardens, and I saw some guy propose to his girlfriend in a very cozy room of the Islamic Art wing. They converted the second floor balcony into a wine bar- lots of lovers hang out there too. This "single" thing is getting way old for me.

Anwyay, I did a LOT of sketching.

Before I went to the museum I had a Dr's appointment. I checked out ok, but I gotsta call my doc on monday to get the results of that routine bloodletting thing. I wanna know if I'm still anemic.

Me tired now, I go beddie-bye.

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Just think of this as our own little private corner of the cyber world - we can even chain out vicious appearing cyber dogs like an old junkyard....

So was the guy who proposed Islamic? Or was he just into scimitars and gaudy accessories.

I will want to see some of the sketchings. Did you stay away from the Byzantine stuff or bite the bullet? :)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

He could have been Islamic, he looked middle-eastern or maybe Indian. The room was actually very romantic. It was a reconstruction of an ancient middle eastern room with an ornate, wood carved and painted ceiling, tiled marble floors with geometric patterns, low-to-the-ground red sofas (ideal for sex) and a water fountain. I wouldn't mind being proposed to in a place like that. The Islamic and Asian art collections are VERY tasteful. Anyway, I sort of turned around and walked out since I really felt like I was intruding on their little moment- so I came back to that room later on and threw a couple coins into the fountain and made some wishes.

Of course I stayed away from the Byzantine art =) the last thing I need to be reminded of is my heritage- how depressing and dry. I got a good sketch of a nifty Yatagan sword handle, a Toltec relief carving of an eagle eating a human heart, an oriental war helmet with a little smiling demon on top (cute), the front of a gothic gold box from some Cathedral's treasury, details of a french sofa, Aztec and Incan nose rings (they're actaully very beautiful), Polynesian wood carvings, and other Aztec gold crafts.

A lot of the sketches are really, well, sketchy. I was mainly there to look for inspiration and ideas for a 3D game my boss and I are brainstorming about. So if I saw a pretty little detail or design, or a part of a greek necklace that I liked I just sketched it down quickly so I can use them later. I was so tired and "sketched out" by the time I got to the Islamic and Asian section that I just couldn't draw anymore. I need to go back for a second trip. I will try to remember to bring my sketchbook next time I vist ya.

That cathedral treasury exhibit was really boring. Gothic art sucks. It's like for a few hundred years in Europe the only things they made pretty were crucifixes and relic boxes- as if to say the only thing beautiful in the world was god and everything else is worthless and trite. Bullshite! What about all that good stuff like drinking, carousing, hanging out with yer pals, enjoying nature, making love and just being happy? How about using COLOR once in a while? How about painting children playing in a grassy meadow with flowers and trees instead of a morose, dripping, dead Jesus nailed to the cross.

Good thing they had the modern art section right next to it otherwise I would have lapsed into gothic-induced depression =)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Bored....

Bored, bored, bored, bored.... Bored...

Somebody post somethin.

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Somethin'


:p

I have not one creative muse in residence today.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Gawd, I got them pouring outta me; I think it's that museum after-glow. I just cranked out a cool character sketch for a 4-armed biped (humanoid-ish... kinda) with a nifty outfit.

However, the muses for writing SR drop in whenever they feel like it- which is rarely when I need them around =) Lucky me.

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

How about animal/human crosses or anthropoid animals or are they too trite. As I said, I'm a well gone dry.

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

I was thinking variations on Anubis and the like re: the above, what with the museum influence and all. My brain hurts. Going home.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Ah, Egyptian animal composites =) You also find them in Ancient Latin/South American Indian art (Aztec, Incan, etc.). I'm working on that too, just don't have any of those in a finished state yet.

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Eagle warriors. Leopard Warriors. Etc, etc. I am uninspired Shadowrun-wise, if I were to write something, it would probably take all day. And it would probably suck. I have oddly become inspired to write things in the Warhammer 40K universe, especially since the multiple-hour discussion I had last night that ended at 1:30am (thank you VERY much Eric). At any rate, I know it's my turn to write in SR, but I got nuthin for ya--I'm sorry. Anyway, L8R...

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Grrrr....

I was without one of those portable rain shelters you people call "umbreallas", so I broke down and got one when I realized I'd be completely soaked if I tried to walk home without one last night.

So I went to one of those corner umbrella vendors (I think they sprout with the rain) and got myself a BIG umbrella, 'cause the small ones are too tiny to keep one dry- especially in a downpour like we've been having.

So I was dry and happy as a little clam...

Until a sudden GALE FORCE wind caught me by surprise and tore my umbrella to shreds...

Curses!

Anyway, around here the entire city is littered with the broken corpses of shredded umbrellas. There piled up in the garbage cans, blowing around on the street, stuck in the tree branches, etc...

On the brighter side my grandmother got me a Furby Baby. It farts, belches and it's just oh so cute.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Well the reason I've been off Lev this week was becauuse I was taking a midterm in my comp class Mon. and Wed.

Anyway, how bad is it for one of your profs. to get another job and leave in the middle of the semester. My class came back from spring break and he was gone. Fortunetly they gave us a new prof. and I have her now for another class so I know what to expect from her.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

That must have been a damn good job offer for the old Prof. to just up and leave =)

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Small child eating cookie: "Me have cookie and none for you...mwahahahaha."

An actual quote, I kid you not, including the calculated mwahahaha at the end. Damn he's funny

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

I saw something like that once in a doctor's office, only it was evil. There were a couple kids squabbling over a lollypop. It was kind of funny, except that the kid with the lollypop was really being a mean little bitch. I was surprised that the mother didn't step in.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

*sigh*

Bored... Bored, bored, bored, bored, bored, bored, bored.

Well don't just stand there, entertain me!

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

No.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I wasn't talking to you ;P~~~~~

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

YES, internet in my dorm room at last.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Wow. I had a rather disapointing lunch today at this new noodle shop I ran across- a rare event considering the kick-ass places around soho... It sounded like a good idea at first: Chinese roast duck wrap with cucumbers, scallions and hoisen sauce with a side of steamed veggie dim-sum. The dumplings were Ok (not good enough to justify the price) but the duck wrap TOTALLY sucked; it was TINY, as in egg-roll TINY. If noodles are their specialty I can see why- everything else sucks.

I just feel like bitching... I'm still hungry, screw it, I'm off to get a chicken souvlaki.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I'm in the wrong profession. I should have become a doctor. Why? Because my doctors (although they are very good) are bleeding me dry =( I've just gone though two appointments this month (and one of my doctors doesn't take ANY kind of insurance), and now I need to go in for ultrasound and ANOTHER appointment with my GP. It's like a perpetual hole in my wallet. Like I said, I'm in the wrong profession...

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

But do you enjoy what you do?

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I was being sarcastic ;P

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Painkillers... Mmmmmmm......

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Brenna's watching Pinnochio... Thank God for headphones... Half-Life on full volume pumped directly into my skull... ~~drool~~

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Sounds like you could use some of this Anaprox my doc gave me for things like PAIN. Want some?

Why is Brenna watching pinnochio? That simply should not be allowed in your house. Be a man, burn that disney tape and then run it over with your car!

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

But if it makes you feel better my grandmother was complimenting the ugliest shirt in my wordrobe today- which I did not wear by choice, I simply need to do my laundry very, very badly. I must get more spring/summer clothes. I'm doing a field trip to bloomingdale's after work.

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

***massege in a bottle floats up on the rocky shore***

Help - am being shipped to Eastern Euro Easter Brunch - SOS---SOS----SOS

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

***Bottle sender beats head on keyboard for not catching evil typos --- hard to write while stuffed in a sack on a loading dock***
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By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I have to suffer the same fate tomorrow. I am NOT looking forward to it... Except for the horseradish sauce, now that my grandmother *does* know how to make. Although I do feel very sorry for you Faye. My grandmother knows how to cook Ukie food really well (even though I'm sick of it) but I have found (through experience) that most other Ukes don't. So it don't look like your chances are too good, Faye =(

You can always fake a few allergies. Or say that you're a vegetarian- that will at least save you from the kielbasa. If you really wanna piss 'em off just say that you have Russian ancestry- and sound proud of it- ;) If that doesn't get you booted from the table (and spared the heavy, artery-clogging experience) I don't know what will =)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Heeerrryy guyyyys. mmmmmannnIIi goootttta llayyy oph the shhotttss. TTthhww ee eextraaaa beeeeeeeeerr ddddidn'tttt helpp eeeoiitherr,,

Ok so I'm not stupid enough to get drunk at a bar and drive home. But the shots did go right to my head. In particular the one called "Red Death" it tasted great but one sip and I was realling. But then again so were the others who tryed it. Well I'm gonna go sleep now so as not to scare the rabbit. G'night.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Ooooh! Red death! Sounds tasty. I'll have to try that sometime. I'm not really allowed to drink at home, I haven't had a drink since new years. I'm dyin' for a tanqueray and tonic right now, or a raspberry drop, or an alabama slammer.

I just got into a huge argument with my grandmother. She was trying to sucker me into going to church and I told her flat out that I do not belive in god. She didn't take that very well, not like I give a rat's ass what she thinks. Then she pull this "you live in my house so I say you have to believe in god" bullshite. I told her god can suck my left inner lip, then and only then can finally say that god's actually done something for me.

At least I'm too big now for her to drag me to church by my hair like she used to.

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Look outside today. Who else could have made a day like that? ;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Mother nature of course, or in scientific terms, "the forces of nature" which have nothing to do with "god". However, people who DO attibute the weather to "god" were the type of people who burned suspected witches each time the weather conditions weren't to their satisfaction about one hundred and fifty years ago. Nowadays they reject the germ theory of disease.

Fred, have you found inner peace in the church of scientology? ;)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Ah, the simple minded continue to harp on peoples past mistakes;p

I'm only kidding, I believe that it is a sign of ignorence when someone makes fun of anothers religion only because the person usually has no idea what their talking about. But Nat while I respect your decision not to attend mass(God knows that Easter was my first time in a church since christmas) but to say you don't believe in god when you do is hipicritical.

As my Mom said when she told me it was up to me, "Your old enough to make the decision yourself."

Now I understand that your grandmother may not be like that but hey things can change right?

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

I just found a cool thing from the Mummy Returns where you can see what your job in Egypt would have been.

I was a Beekeeper and very successful with three wives and fourteen children.

GF, you were a carpenter and you were rich with two wives and eight kids, all of you were able to read and write and your wives held banquets quite often. Not Bad.

Eric was the personal guard dog of the Pharoah.

Ranger was a preistess who was courted all her life but never married. Devoted I must say.

I just relized that if you use your last name it comes out different so w/o the last name I was a seamstress and Fred was a Beekeeper, everyone else stays the same.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

If I ever need a seamstress, I'll give you a call Damien.

However... (you know what's coming...) you don't know me, and therefore can't tell when I'm being sarcastic. So I'll be nice and I won't hold that against you, which is why I won't take post -2 personally.

I'm telling you now, officially, I was being sarcastic. You made the mistake of taking me seriously when if fact I was not. Sorry you misunderstood, but now you know for next time. As for the hypocrisy you accuse me of, that's a different story; I don't see where you justify it. I don't believe in god and never claimed to. Maybe you misread my post- which wasn't meant to be serious in the first place. But while we're on the subject of my grandmother, she won't change. She's a peasant from the Ukraine with no education, class, mind of her own, or mores consistent with modern times. Living under religious and social repression isn't fun.

Anyway, I feel like venting. My "Easter" weekend totally sucked. My cousin had a spat with my Aunt and my grandmother so he decided not to attend Easter lunch at my grandmother's house. So that left me, my aunt, gran and gramps. We were all yelling a shouting at each other (my Aunt wanted to pick a fight and well, she got it) for the entire day. Once my grandmother started crying we all had to quiet down. Yes, a typical holiday at my household- at least this time no one walked out on the festivities, which has happened several times in the past. So by definition I guess I'm forced to admit it was a little better this year.

Ah the joys of a dysfunctional screwed up family full of baggage. I hate my family (except Mom), and I seriously mean it. There has never been any happiness, love and support in my family (except from Mom)- only hatred, contempt and abuse. If my three cousins and I never find partners, settle down and have kinds I will at least die knowing it will be the end of my family line. No loss for mankind and less crap in the gene pool.

For those of you with love, support and understanding in your families be grateful for what you have.

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

So, what is the scientific explanation of "mother nature" anyway? Are these natural forces a known, scientific, predictable thing, or is there still chaos at work in the universe, spawning inconsistent instances of life in small patches throughout reality? Is that God? Where does life come from? Have we found an answer through science yet? Did man really evolve from apes? if so, what did the apes evolve from? Who/what created that primordial ooze from which all life bubbled? Was that God? Or is there some overly simplified scientific explanation of this? You wanna get down? let's do it... ;>

I know you don't believe in God, Nat. Tell me: what happens when you die? What makes you an individual? Is there a soul/spirit that animates your corpse, or is it simply a biological machine driven by neurological/electrical impulses, which if thrown out of balance ceases to function? What do ya think, huh? ;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Yes, they are known, scientific, and predictable. Science uncovers more and more over time, even though we don't know the answer for everything just yet. Science is approaching a unified theory that will gap the bridge between relativity and quantum theory. Countless things once labeled as acts of god have been explained by science (weather for example). As for the theory of evolution and the origins of humankind, I will need to refer to my references from my old biotech days if you want to get down to specifics- I am perfectly happy to oblige once I have my books ready for any reasonable debate you wish to call.

As for my opinions (and I stress the word "opinions") on life/death/soul: my conscience makes me an individual. My conscience is a chemical brain function. Personality is conscience shaped by experience. Over time any belief I might have had in the spiritual has been whittled due to experiences, observation and scientific education. I consider myself a realist. As for what happens when you die? I don't know. But since no one has come back to tell us, that's pretty good evidence against the existence of a soul. Then there are things like hallucinations and delusions, but I won't get into that. That's a different ball of wax.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

I keep telling you all, it's the Aliens. Their the ones responceable for it all;p

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Nat sarcasim is in all cases impossible to get from a text unless it is said to be sarcatic. This is because sarcasim is shown with a tone in the vocalization of the statement or how the person uses their body language.

As for the rest it was not meant to be about you I was just making a general statement about my beliefs and opinions. I'm sorry I didn't say as much but then again my brain doesn't function quite as well as I'd like that early in the morning. But then again whenever I voice my beliefs or opinions people bite my head off so I guess I'm always wrong. In anycase I've spoken my mind and shall now crawl back under my rock;)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Don't worry about it Damien. It takes a while. after you get to know someone you also aquaint yourself with their pattern of speech. Then when you see their posts you can begin to see the tone- usually.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Hey Nat I'm just curious, do you find that reaching a scientific explination for a phenominon takes away from its wonder. For example a rainbow, does the fact that you know it is caused by the light of the sun refracting off of the moister in the air make it so that you just shrug when you see one? Or do you see it and sigh at the beauty that can still exsist in our poluted and tereformed world?

I'm just wondering is all;)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

I am reading through the current issue of Action Figure News & Review and came accross a picture of two new figures. They are Jen and Kira from "The Dark Crystal", their of the twelve inch variety and look great.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Here's my answer:

Mom: "Sorry kid, it's time you knew something. A big white stork did not bring you to me. Instead your father and I made you by having sex."

kid: "Cool! So, what is sex?"

In a way that's kind of like asking if I would prefer to know the truth about something, or if I'd be happier with some variety of myth. Understanding the scientific explanation makes things even more wonderful. I find great satisfaction in knowing what makes something tick.

Knowing a rainbow for what it is doesn't make me enjoy it any less. It's still beautiful and spectacular. Same goes for a meteor shower. Yes I know it's just a bunch of little rocks buring up due friction as it enters Earth's atmosphere, and that doesn't make it any less exciting to me.

I think that's part of why I chose a science major over the fine arts when I first went to RIT.

I hope that answers your question =)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

It does but I pose this to you:

How do we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that what we know disproves the existice of God, or is it part of his way of making us unique?

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

First I'll need to to tell me exactly what your definition of "God" is. Then I can proceed from there.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Arrgghhh.. Typos... Let me type that last bit again..

First I'll need you to tell me exactly what your definition of "God" is. Then I can proceed from there.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Well then if it has come to that we're in truble. See I believe in God but I've never really tried to lock down what he would be exactly. I guess we could assume that he is the creator the almighty as it were.

I've always thought of God as being the one you could talk to when the rest of the world has tread upon you and destroyed your dreams. I've always thought of him as the one who would be there when all is said and done. I've always thought of him as a watchful gaurdian or even a friend who you share everything with.

I've never really excepted the whole thing about God being above everything and everyone. Most might find that blasphamy but it always comforted me to think of him as being inside of me a part of who I am and what I do.

I guess by my definition God is how you see him, whether he be an unreachable judge or the best friend you ever had. Take your pick Nat.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

You can't have a logical debate without first establishing the definition of what you are arguing about- especially when the meaning of the subject can be vague- which is why I asked.

You want me to pick the terminology for "God" from which to base the argument? Okey dokey. How does this sound:

God: a superhuman being with an independent conscience, worshipped as having divine power over nature & human fortunes, the creator of the universe.

We will now go to the philosophy topic and begin a logical debate based on this definition.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

> How do we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that
> what we know disproves the existice of God, or
> is it part of his way of making us unique?

This is a loaded statement! First you say that we disproved the existance of God, then you say that we did so because He allowed it! If we disproved Him, I don't see how He could allow anything.

God can certainly be proven by logic. That's because nothing lives outside of the Laws of Logic. If you can't prove God, he either doesn't exist, or you don't have sufficient premises with which to prove it. Perhaps the knowledge required to concoct such a proof is beyond human comprehension, but that's different. That's why people are so big on faith - 'cause Farmer John certainly can't prove his way out of a paper bag!

I have seen many proofs for God - but they only hold if you believe the premises.

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Well, we could discuss that over in philosophy =)

Oye, things are gonna get busy here. One of the part time guys just quit. I'm NOT gonna miss him, I didn't like the sorry little twit. He wasn't a very social person, it took effort and lots of self-restraint for me to put up with him as a co-worker. I'd tell my boss "Good riddance" but then I'd look like a prick so I'm keeping my mouth shut on this one.

So that leaves the rest of us to pick up the slack. I'll probably end up doing a bunch more office errands. Which I don't really mind, I like it here.

Other then that, in addition to painkillers I'm going to be given antidepressants! Whoo hoo! If it works and you notice I don't seem to be acting inherently bitter, you'll know why (instead of wondering if I'd been abducted by aliens and replaced with folger's coffee "lets see if anyone can tell the difference")...

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

What?!?!?! Nat being cheery?!?!??? OhmyGodwhatevershallwedoaboutit? ;>

(how's that for printed sarcasm) ;>

Looky what I started with the little God-poke. I'm off to check philosophy now...

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I KNOW. But I'm not too sure about being cheery- maybe a kindler, gentler Nat- just slightly. Today is day one on the Prozac (low dose). I don't feel a whole lot different yet, but the mind is a little clearer then the usual chaos. Not as muttled. I'm not sure if it's the drug, or if I'm just in a strange state of mind today. It takes about a week to kick in, then after week two if I feel it's helping me I'll get bumped up to 20 mg a day.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

ARRRGGHHH!!!
%&#k!!!!! !#*@!!!*#$*&@#$*&!&!@*#$*@&#!

Bent my thumbnail backwards (HURTS), completely ripping the tip of my thumbnail off and ruining my manicure! Fu*k!!!!!!

Ow! Ow! Ow!

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Some people experience reduced libido as a side effect from Prozac. Hmmm.... We shall see.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Hmmm.. That's strange. I actually feel good today.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Even stranger- I feel good today as well. That's the second day in a row.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Nat, good for you! Sounds like the ol' Prozakk is giving a positive change! Imagine... having to go OFF pills to get nuts!

Sol

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Hey Nat, it's all in your head. Have another drink... ;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

The liver is willing, but the prozac is not. You're not supposed to drink too much when you're on Prozac.

Well... you can, but you really need to watch it, it's not recommended if you know what I mean. You can have a couple drinks- but since it takes two or three strong drinks just to get me mildly (and I stress mildly) tipsy I may as well not bother if that's all I can safely have on the prozac.

I've always been nuts! I haven't changed; I'm still the same old naughty nat, only in a much better mood... So far... If this keeps up during week two I'll know for certain that it's the drug.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

*Taps screen*

Faye?

*Taps again*

Hello? Are you feeling better? Hello?

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

I have returned. Battered and bloody but (semi) functionl.
The whole brunch thing turned out to be moot since the tyrant king spiked a nasty temp late Sat and we spent Easter as he put it 'hanging out with gramma'.
I too am just coming out of what ever it was he and I caught. Blah.
But hey, hi, y'all.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Ah well gramps is back in the hospital. This time it's intestinal bleeding, plus it looks like he'll go into another heart attack at any moment. I really hope this is that last time for this crap. We were stuck at the hospital until 7:30am this morning WAITING for the docs to tell us something substantial.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

At least the doctor was hot. He was very well built with a handsome, clean-shaven face and a nice ass; I'd do him.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

That's the same naughty Nat alright! Point taken! :) My best for your Grampa, too.

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Yeah grandpa is okay- after six blood transfusions. He had some bleeding pockets in his large intestine- a whole slew of them. They're finally healing, but he lost a LOT of blood. He should be home in a day or so.

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

There is such a thing as TOO much information...

Was the Doc a nice ethnic boy or was he a mayonnaise poster child? Tall? Just curious ;)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Mayonnaise poster child, short brown hair, about 6'1, nice bod that would make your mouth water to touch, deep brown eyes, shall I go on?

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Yeah, well I'm still thinkin' about that HOT doctor... To make my naughty mood worse, I'm listening to Type O -'s cover of Black Sabbath (from the satanic perspective). Talk about mood inducing, get-down-with-your-naughty-self (as if I need any encouragement in the first place)... And since my boss isn't gonna be in the office until monday it means I can play it REALLY LOUD =) 12 Black Rainbows is another evil song I enjoy =)

Worship the sun
Worship no one


........ Naughty!!!!!

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

"My name is Sol, son of the Sun God..."

he he

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Sol, are you implying that we should worship you?

Naughty!

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

You know, I was in the process of cleaning out the new junkmail from my hotmail account and I saw an email with the following header:

"Diane Thought You Might Have Erectile Dysfuncion"

Really? *checks pants* OHMIGOD! My winkie is gone!!!!! WHERE DID IT GO???? AM I NO LONGER A MAN! Whatever shall I do without my throbbing, uncirumcised member? How WILL I go on with my life?

By Bryan Cummings (Houdini) on Unrecorded Date:

Join a suport group. :)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Ahhh, no one but Fred shares my pain....

*poke*

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

I am soooo BORED. You guys are just going to have to be so much more entertaining today --

although if something was throbbing constantly in my pants, Nat, I'm not sure I'd have wanted it to prolong its stay....but then who knows with that primitive external genetalia ;)

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

>> primitive external genetalia ;)

Actually, females predate males in nature. The male sex was the 2nd to emerge. So who's primitive now? :P We did a project in sex ed where all the boys had to wear the pregnancy suit for a week, but all the girls had to have a cucumber in their pants... you know, to develop empathy for the other gender. Some girls in the class, after the initial getting-used-to period decided they liked it and kept it in there all the time. One girl decided to go to Sweden and go all the way with it... really makes you think.

And yes, I think you all do worship me... don't you? All I ask is that you respect my temple and not eat the villagers...

Sol

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

"So who's primitive now?"

Um...guys. By far the more primitive creature.
(I can just see the gender war gearing up here)

Now can you guess WHY some girls might have actually liked having something firm bouncing around in their pants? Hmmm?

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Beer good.

Napster BAD.

;>

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Simulpost! Hi, GF.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Sol, does this mean I can't poop inside the temple?

Well if you angle the cumumber the right way, you know... ahem...

Anyway- yup, guys are certainly primative- although sometimes I suppose they can communicate in means other than grunts and snarls.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Yeah some of us acctually speak useing a vocabulary. It's just that females only hear what they want to. ;)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I'm sorry, what were you saying? All that chest hair and knuckle-dragging is so distracting =P~~~

=)

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

A comedian I heard once put a pretty good spin on the difference.
He said to picture a man's brain function, simply picture a old country road with say a tractor poking along. While a woman's brain functions like an eight lane super highway car whizzing along.
The tractor's driver is called Sex and all other thoughts kind of get piled up behind it, while only one little roadster on the super highway is driven by Sex and there's all sorts of other vehicles stopping, passing, following, lapping, racing, etc, that one little car.
Mind you, this was a guys take on things ;]

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

That would be about right. Only in my case every vehicle on my mental super highway has a driver called Sex.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

M'kay folks, I'm heading out to Bloomingdales. Catch y'all later... I guess one of my highway car's drivers is named "shopping".

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Sex good.

Napster BAD.

~scratches head~

~fart~

Man good.

;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Damnit. There was this really nice blouse at bloomingdale's I wanted but they were out of my size because of this sale thingy they got goin' on; they're clearing stuff out to make way for summer clothes. It was the only blouse I liked too, see I'm very picky. Fred can vouch for that, he's always complaining about how picky I am =) I'm off to shop again tomorrow, because I REALLY need some spring/summer clothes in the worst way.

I need some new sandals too, damnit.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

I should probably buy some new shoes eventually, but I don't believe in material things, so I am waiting for them to disintegrate. Almost there. too!

Sol

-Don't place faith in material things, material things will fail you.-

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

I dunno, I think men and women think about sex about the same. At least the young. Most women's magazines are full of such things. Plus I'd say there's a lot more pressure for women to be sexy (from other women) than men experience from other men.

I think men are a lot more open to discussing sex, however. At least in public. A woman is looked down upon for the same, and so is inclined only to discuss such things in the company of close friends or a lover. This is too bad, but I see evidence that this is changing.

SoL

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I always talk about sex in public, I never care who's listening in. Then again, there have been times where I've been shhhhhhhh'ed because someone thought that kind of talk was inappropriate. "Nat! That's not lady-like!" Not like that stopped me, in fact I think in that situation I get even more vulgar just to piss that person off =) or at least embarass them =D

Then again, as you all know I'm far from conventional ;)

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Nat, you are one of the rare few that breaks thru stupid stereotypes. That's a good thing, too, because most of the roles society puts on people are ignorant rubbish. Just because people have been doing something for a few hundred years is no excuse to perpetuate it.

Kudos!
Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Awwww, thanx =)

Anywayz, gramps is back in intensive care, the intestinal bleeding has returned and they operate tomorrow. If they don't removed the offending section of intestine he'll bleed to death- he's going through units of blood like crazy just to keep his blood levels stable. They also found colon cancer, though it is not the immediate threat. It don't look good as the operation alone might be enough of a shock to send him into ANOTHER heart attack (which would make it his forth).

He's on a respirator with a blood tube sticking into his jugular. Funny thing is that yet again, it looks like my grandfather is still in better shape than everyone else in the ICU, pretty depressing. Eh, if it's his time to go, it's his time to go... Nothin' I can do.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

AAAAAAGGGGG too early spelling errors great. Class drag on, bore Kronk.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Wow, Gramps is a fighter to keep on going through all that. He sounds like quite a guy. Hopefully, everything will go to plan.

Sol

By Bryan Cummings (Houdini) on Unrecorded Date:

Nat,

I've been where you are right now with your grandpa. If you need to talk, I'm just a email or phone call away.

-Bryan

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

No, I'm doing fine. Thanx for the support though =)

Mom's here, she's sayz "Hi"... Mom's cool. I learned everything from her, so you know where I get it from =)

Besides, if I don't say something nice she'll smack me up a bit ;) She takes Aikido, so I'd better watch it...

"Ahhh, yes Grasshopaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!....."

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Sooo tired... Need megadose of caffiene... *drool*


Zzzzzzz.............

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Need to move out. I hope to make this a possibility one year from now. Grandma is a two-faced bitch.

Manhattan is too expensive for me. I *had* my heart set on Gramercy or G. Vill but I don't have an extra 2K per month lying around for rent- would be nice. Queens is too close to my Cousin and my Aunt; I want to stay as far away from them as possible. Staten Island is a bitch to commute from (but affordable), the Bronx is just nasty all-around with the exceptions of Riverdale and Pelham (where I used to live) but they're also unrealistic commute-wise. I want to stay away from Jersey to avoid commute and tax headaches...

So that leaves Brooklyn... Being a snotty Manhattanite I had once turned up my nose to the idea. After some research I'm gonna consider Greenpoint and Williamsburg (across the East River from Manhattan) which are decent neighborhoods (10 min. from Manhattan by train) -supposedly- with affordable rents, for now. Rents are skyrocketing in Brooklyn and Queens because Manhattan has become unaffordable.

All I want is a studio with a dishwasher... Is that too much to ask? I need more money. Anyone wanna join me on a bank hit?

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Mom's going back to Florida on saturday =(

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

I am in a real fed up mood with this job. Why must I work for a moron?
piss/moan/piss/moan/piss/moan/etc/ad infinitum...

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Feel free to vent, it's good for ya. So what did your boss do? Do tell =)

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

Too many f*** ups to document. Suffice to say every time he tries to take an active part in doing/running something in the division, he makes huge messes he then blames on someone else. He never follows SOP (standard operating proceedures) but bulls ahead thinking we should know what he wants and is doing. I hope he falls off a cliff and retires broken and weak -- today.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Ranger,

I had a boss like that. She wanted you to read her mind. She wanted quality computer training, but had NO inkling of what any of her desired subject-areas entailed. Ie she wanted Network+ and then seemed surprised when I told her we would be best off having a *network* to demonstrate some concepts. Oh yeah, I also requested various training materials and she DIDN'T BUY them. Worse, sometimes she'd change around the entire plan from the ground-up, sometimes without telling me, even after I'd worked for weeks to prepare for her previous version. Also she talked badly about all her employees in front of them as well as behind their backs. She wanted me to work 60 hour weeks "on principle" whether there was work to do or not! and gave me a hard time when I insisted on having a 1/2 hour lunch every day. It was ridiculous. So when Xerox offered me a job, I accepted!

Unfortunately, Xerox went belly-up a week later and said, "sorry- deal's off. We're laying you off."

"What? I haven't even had my first day yet!"

*xerox shrugs*

Did I go back and beg for my he*l job? h*ll no! I let her replace me with someone who didn't know what he was doing, and she got to save money like she wanted. Too bad her whole program will go down the tubes now, but hey! I was a nice guy and gave 3 weeks notice, so no guilt here.

And now I'm doing something important and finishing my degree.

Sol

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Did I mention that when I left, new students were going to be starting Network+ the VERY next week? Yes, well, I said, "Maybe you'd really better order the materials NOW if you want them to arrive in time for the students!!"

"No, it can wait."

And of course, there were NO plans curriculum, books, NOTHING for Network+. How I was supposed to teach without ANY materials for 4 weeks was beyond me. Especially with 60 hour weeks, when is an instructor to *prepare*? HA! Some people think instructors get up and talk, but there's a little thing called *preparation*. That's when the instructor plans lessons! Well, what can I say, glad that's over!

Sol

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Wow. Bummer. Are you at home right now, someplace I can give ya a call?

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Ah, I am lucky. I have a very cool, down-to-earth, understanding and encouraging boss.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

And I got a boss who wants to get me promoted to manager as soon as I graduate.

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

And I got a boss who wants to hire my friends... ;>

By Bryan Cummings (Houdini) on Unrecorded Date:

Still looking for intelegent life in the galaxy?

Join the SETI@Home project.

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_60853.html

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

RE -1

Remember, if you join SETI at HOME, there is a LEV group! So help bolster the number of units submitted by LEV_FORUM! Get Seti_at_home today!

Even Sol's 486 is helping!

Sol

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

I believe our local library is now hooked into SETI at home. All the computers have little green alien stickers stuck on them.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

By the way, I have a solution to your boss problem. It requires a molotov cocktail and some leather gloves =) Nobody will miss him, consider it a public service.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

All Law enforcment agents should relize of course that Nat is crazy and her views are only shared by a few of us.

Remeber; only you can prevent boss fires.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Yeah! Fire! Fire!

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

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Players:
Grab 5 six-sided dice and roll them. Add the highest 3 together (giving you a maximum score of 18. If the other two dice are threes or lower, reroll them and re-calculate your high three dice. For example, I roll 5D6 and get a 5, 3, 4, 2, 6. I add the 5, 6, and 4 to get 15. Since the other two dice are 3 or lower, I reroll them and get a 6 & a 4. My new stat score is a 17. Got it? The stats will be RIFTS stats as applied to today's world and they will be describing you yourselves rather than fantasy characters. The stats are Intelligence, Mental Endurance, Mental Affinity, Physical Strength, Physical Prowess, Physical Endurance, Physical Beauty, and Speed. Once these stats are rolled, I will allow 16 points to spread amongst the stats (up to a maximum of 20 per stat, for fairness.) As for skills: Any skills available to people today (I'm contemplating whether or not to use magic. Should I?) To determine skills: I'll allow everyone to have 15 skills, plus the result of 1D20 (16-35 skills).
I would suggest taking some weapons proficiencies, or else I WILL NOT ALLOW the use of weapons (After all, we're basing the characters on ourselves, eh?) ;> I'm so mean. ;>
Starting money: I will allow each of you to have $1000 cash to start. What you buy with it I leave up to you, but it cannot be anything considered illegal to civilians of today. Base prices on today's standards. If you have any questions, write me. And mail anybody else who might be interested. So far, the player roster is Liz, Natalka, and Sol. Forward this message to anybody wishing to join. I will need yer character write-ups by Monday, January 8, since we'll be starting then.

----Greyfox, THE DM.
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Sol,
You may choose any skills you want. You do not need to have a class, this is just gonna be like you being injected into an RPG. Whatever skills you wanna have, you get. Whatever you wanna buy, you can have (except for items you could presently not get: i.e. you do not have a gun permit, so you may not buy a gun, however, you may buy knives, swords, food, a car, gas, clothing, computers, that sorta stuff.) I ferget exactly how many skills you can have, but it was in the last mailing, I believe. It's not really RIFTS, only the stats are based on RIFTS stats. So, update yerself, and be ready to plunge into e-mail adventure! Catch ya later, buddy...

----Greyfox...

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Sol,
Sounds kewl! I especially like the car. I'm just waiting on Liz, and then we can get started. Nat isn't gonna be able to do it right now, but she says she may join in later. You have above average stats, the maximum allotment for skills, and decent items. I'll allow you to have yer car for free (I know you really own it) so keep the 500 bucks from that. Also, add the 5 dollars from paper and pens, the 20 bucks from the calculator, and the 5 bucks from the broom handle. Come on, yer gonna buy a broom in order to break off the handle? Use the money for stuff you don't already have layin around the house. Stuff like, say, real martial arts gear or a defibrulation machine. get it? One last thing: the flashlight. You don't need to spend any money on it, unless it's like, a brand new mag-lite or somethin, eh? ;> So, instead of 30 dollars for pocket money, you have a grand total of: $560. The DM has spoken. ;>

----Greyfox...

PS= the actual game will start after the next group mailing, with or without the other character write-ups. (I'm so evil). ;>

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Players,
The world you are about to enter is essentially the same as the world we live in today. The only difference is, anything that might only be a rumor in the real real world is actually real in this one. There really have been alien visitors from other planets, kept secret by the military since 1947 (Roswell), Psychic energies are very real, and can be physically manifested as magical energies and visible forces. Superhumans are rumored to be in existence; the result of genetic engineering experiments. The government's policy is one of denial and secrecy, and as long as you don't mind being left in the dark, you are a treasured and model citizen. However, anyone who opposes the government on any level is labelled as a militant rebel; a member of one of the 'militias' who are insanely opposed to the ideals of our great nation. (After all, freedom IS NOT one of the ideals anymore...) Throw that into the mix with threats from terrorist groups, third-world countries, and large corporations trying to buy the
world for themselves, and you get an extremely intriguing scenario... Welcome to Virtually Real: the first (as far as I know) play by e-mail RPG. Enter at your own risk.

----Greyfox...
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Sol,
Print this out and keep it for reference, or have it stored in your computer for looking up when we play. TA!

Sol

IQ - 20
ME - 19
MA - 17
PS - 20
PP - 17
PE - 16
PB - 20
SPD - 20

Skills:

Yoga
Programming
Offense, Martial Arts*
Meditation
Computer Engineering
Offense, Bo staff*
Astral Projection
Network Programming
Defense, Martial Arts*
Empathy
Fish-keeping
Defense, Bo staff*
Prophecy
Driving (cars)
Common Defense
Clairvoyance
Biking
Knowledge, Pop Culture
Object Reading
Swimming
Knowledge, Tech
Mental Shielding
Cashiering
Knowledge, Scientific
Danger Sense
Lovemaking
Knowledge, Red Tape
Animal Empathy
Psychology, female
Knowledge, Modern Society
Photographic Memory
Psychology, general
Reading/Writing
CPR
Psychology, abnormal
Literacy (advanced)

Advanced Literacy includes ability to understand fine print as well as ability to write persuasively, write literature, and poetry with skill
Sol has a photographic Memory for any spoken words he remembers not only what was said, but can recite statements word-for-word even days after the fact. Sol also uses this skill to quote from favorite movies and thus to annoy friends.

Possessions:
Money Remaining: $1000
Calculator 980
Bo Staff (actually a broom w/ broken-off handle) 975
"portable" computer
(486, modem, tinkered together to form a reasonably
adequate package).... 775
Access to Internet, plus Netscape Web Browser (1 year) 665
Chevy Geo Spectrum (runs pretty well, good mpg) 165
Psychic/Meditation/Yoga library (+ popular fanzines) 135
Bus token which Sol stores energy in + chain 135
Tapes to play in car 105
Flashlight 100
Cell Phone (free! special offer) + 6 months free calls 40
Paper, pens, etc 35
Coupons for Taco Bell, Pizza Hut 35
Basic Tools (came w/ car) 35
Condoms (kept in breast pocket NOT in car) 30
Checking Account (presently empty!) 30
Clothes (all gifts! :P) 30

$560 cash

Sol stands 5' 11'', Med. decent, pronounced, peaceful hair, gold-wire glasses, T-shirt, loose fitting khakis, velcro sneakers. Calm expression, glint of fire in eye when provoked or intrigued. Also often wears Jean Jacket with Orange trim, keeps pockets full of random stuff at all times.

Car: small, red, compact, seats 4 comfortably, seats many more uncomfortably. Hatch-Back, Sol keeps worldly possessions in car (including computer which is covered by a blanket for security). Car can travel for 1 week on 1 tank of gas ($10). Car has poor acceleration, but makes sharp turns, fits into tiny parking lots, and hatchback is rigged to pop open so that passengers can throw junk onto the road behind.

Car's Max speed: Unknown, but starts to shake and buckle around 75 mph. Despite this, car is in very good condition for its age.

Computer: Sol can plug this machine into the cigarrete lighter of his car due to some modifications he made. Because of power needed, car must be running, of course. Sol can also modem out with his cell-phone. The usual location of the computer is next to Sol in the passenger's seat - otherwise, behind the driver's seat, and otherwise in hatchback. It is covered up with a blanket at all times to deter theft.

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Sol,
You're driving from home to class, just like any normal
morning. You get to RIT's library without any type of abnormality... You
even nod to some people you recognize on your way in. However, once you log
onto the VAX, you find that you have received some strange E-mail. I'll let
that message speak for itself...

----Greyfox, the DM

By Bryan Cummings (Houdini) on Unrecorded Date:

Cool! I remember when you guys did that. Naughty!

I seem to recall some of Sol's speciall "proficiencies".

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

*Special!*

It was such a cool game. I still have all the posts, like when Secret Agent Greyfox teams up w/ Sol and we go to rescue Brenna. Sweet!

How are ya Bryan?

Sol

By Bryan Cummings (Houdini) on Unrecorded Date:

Well, I'm doing fine bro. I'm an uncle now!

My sister is having a baby. I found out this weekend! Cool huh?

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

No way! Name him Tony! Name him Tony!

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Name her Natalka! Name her Natalka!

Or maybe Zoot? Evil, NAUGHTY Zoot!

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Howabout "Robobaby?"

Sol

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Or "Baby Pampers?"

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Nah, no, no, no.

How about "Richard" with the middle name of "Tickler"... "Richard Tickler -insert last name here-"

Naughty!

ps- Everybody get it? I made a funny!

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Well, about that old game Sol posted, I guess if you wanted you could put a new topic for it under "gaming". Who knows? Maybe ol' Greyfred could get it going again?

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I feel like venting...

You'd think that some people wouldn't eat foods that make them GASSY before kickboxing, or at least empty out before class. But no! Some jackass kept belting out rancid air biscuits, and the music was so loud no one could figure out who it was. This stink cloud had a HUGE radius; people in half the people in the gym kept looking around them because you KNOW they caught a whiff.

It was a crime, it was not funny.

It's not easy to box when you're gagging.

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Sorry. I didn't think you could smell me ripping @$$ from across state lines like that... D@mn tacos... ;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Okay, now that's impressive. Did you have refried beans and hot sauce with those tacos?

Anyway, I was in Kmart getting a new bathrug and shower curtain last Saturday when I noticed Sally Hansen came out with new chrome nail polish!!! Unfortunately they were all sold out and I was annoyed. So I went back there today and the sally hansen display was GONE!

Oh well, no chrome nail polish for Nat.

*pout*

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I'm bored... Is there anyone else out there except for me today? don't just sit there, post something!

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Something

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Now I'll have to kill you =)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

NNNNNNNNNooooooooooooo. I'll be good I swear I'll be very good.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

I'm doing a take home final right now and I can't get motivated. Not even the sonic assault of the heavy metal I'm pumping into my ears from my computer is helping. Someone, anyone find me and smack me to get me going huh.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I could always offend you, free of charge of course ;D Would that help to motivate you? =)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Acctually as I type this I am half done. I put in Metallica's S&M album(their live album with orchastration) and got inspired, I have as of now however stalled out slightly.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

A reminder for some! Please refrain from swear words when you post! If we don't have our Holy Laws of LEV after all, what do we have?

Love
Sol

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Sol would you be so kind as to clarify. I mean if it was me I'd like to know and have it rectified.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

not U knighthawk, OK, Nat and Fred, you are the sailors of the day! Naughty naughty! Try these nice alternatives:

*ss
j*ck*ss

OK, maybe not all THAT much swearing. I thought I saw another really angry post somewhere with like 4 cussings in it. Remember, LEV is about (should be about) positivity and such. Although 'Lil Johnny will learn swearing sooner or later, let's not let him learn it here at our all-are-welcome friendly site!

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Hmm, did I curse? Gee, it's comes so naturally to me that I probably didn't realize it. Sowwy =)

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

It's OK, Nat, Sol still luvs ya!

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Just one question... Are A$$ and Jacka$$ really that naughty? I can understand a$$hole being banned but the others seem kinda tame in comparison. I thought sh!t and fu*k were the only ones on the naughty-no-no list. Oh well... Nat's gonna have to watch her tongue. Shite!

How about using words like "swive", "wanker" and "bullocks"... Do I have Sol's approval? =)

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Need electrolytes.... Fresh squeezed orange juice... Mmmmmmmmmm...... Fruit salad... Mmmmmmm..... Tomato, mozarella and basil leaves on sesame bread with pesto... Mmmmmmmm...

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Egads! Where did everyone go?

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Here I am, Nat! We're all off-topic in Introductions! ;)

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Then all you people need to get back into the chatterbox and chat with me. C'mon, you all know you want to!

I'm bored! Very bored! Poor me! Poor me!

I think I'm catching a cold. My neck feels a teeny bit swollen and my nose was running this morning. Plus I do feel a bit BLAH today, not to mention I've had a recent craving for vitamin C so I got my yummy fresh squeezed orange juice today- and I never really cared much for orange juice before!

The day after tomorrow I start taking the full 20g dose of prozac. Still no sexual side effects... Naughty!

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

You better go and catch your nose, Nat. ;>

When am I getting my CD back, not to mention your old motherboard? ;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Oh yeah. That's a fu*k*d up catch 22. Lemme tell ya about it. Home has been a complete jail since January when my grandfather's health started to falter. Gramps is still in the ICU by the way, and there is a good chance he could drop dead. Frankly I'm getting tired of waiting. Every time I try to make travel plans something happens to screw them up- usually gramps.

While he's in the hospital it is expected that I stay home and act like a concerned relative, but while he's home I'm expected to sacrifice my weekends so Gran can have time to herself. In other words, if I take off a weekend for a visit to Fredville I will look REALLY REALLY bad.

So until gramps drops dead there is no way I'll get my parole.

If you REALLY REALLY miss your CD and need that motherboard so badly you'll wet yourself, I can ship them to you. Or you can wait until a week or two after my grandfather drops dead, granny should be over the bulk of her mourning by then.

By Bryan Cummings (Houdini) on Unrecorded Date:

A moment of silence please for Douglas Adams, the author of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
He departed from the earth on Friday in order to make room for a new hyperspace bypass.

He was an amazing author who's humorous science fiction writings made me laugh until my sides hurt and gave me newfound respect for the number 42.

So Long
... And Thanks for All the Fish

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

=( =( =( =( =( =( =( =( =( =( =(

*pout*

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Thank goodness for Prozac. I start my 20mg today; I just have to get my butt over to the pharmacy.

I haven't felt really bad at all since I've been taking it. Considering everything that's going on at home and how much my life completely sucks right now, that little drug is amazingly effective... And I still feel like me, imagine that.

I give Prozac a thumbs up.

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Prozac rules! Good for you, Nat, and I hope your life stops sucking soon. I heard that Medical Marijuana is now illegal in the USA.

Bryan, what? D. Adams, dead? How? Why? What killed him?

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Heart attack. He was working out at the gym when he collapsed. Considering that he seemed healthy to his friends and family it was a surprise. They have the obituary article in the NY times.

And yes, they outlawed the use of marijuana. Not like you can't get the stuff by other means- Naughty!

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

I heard that the biggest drug bust in history went down this morning - literally tons of cocaine bound for the USA by ship. Woofa!

Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

... And I wonder where all the coke is gonna be stored now. Many, many Feds will be happy or sedated.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Bored....

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

Ummm, cocaine was a STIMULANT, last time I checked... ;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Yeah, what he said... =P

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Fred, what's new?

Sol

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

nothin much. can I call you sometime? We'll catch up...

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I'm teething. My wisdom teeth are irritating my gums as they slowly push through the soft, inflamed, painful layers of flesh.

I taste blood..

Ow.

By The One Known Only as (Greyfox) on Unrecorded Date:

I love that feeling. I did that, too Nat. Yummy, huh? ;>

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Yeah, it's got that meaty-rare flavor =)

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

I had 4 wisdom teeth removed. They were in so tight that they had to be one-at-a-time drilled into 4 pieces, then extracted. I was drugged up quite nicely, but even though I couldn't feel anything (yet!) I could still smell the burning flesh in my mouth...

Sol!

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Eeewww...

I'm sorry Sol, that must have been terrible!

I guess I'm lucky, mine are growing in straight but the teething part sucks- especially since they grow in little by little whenever they feel like it. So every once in a while I get that mangled gum problem...

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Dude! My mom's crabby landlord is evicting her! That sucks! Poor mom!

By Funk Sol Brother (Sol) on Unrecorded Date:

Nat, you gonna get 'em yanked or what?

ALERT ALERT ALERT all active members!

Surely you have noticed a slight dwindling in message traffic as the busy lives of members take time away from posting. It is a naughty cycle. People post less, so the remainders have less to post about, so they post less, SO SAD!

ALERT ALERT ALERT!

So I am doing some recruiting by posting LEV flyers around the campus. Lifeblood for LEV Forum! Here's where YOU come in!

If you like LEV, be on the lookout for new members in the next couple of weeks. WHEN U SEE A NEW LEVer, don't ignore him/her! Welcome! Cherish! Interact! For newbies don't post so much - but a GOOD EXPERIENCE, INTERESTING CONVERSATION brings them back for more. Ya gotta put some in if ya wanna get some out, eh? ;)

And I know some of you folks like to try getting away with 1-liners. Well, remember Sol's Rule of 1-Liner Degredation! Whatever you post, the response to it will be only 1/2 as much! So help out, and be on the lookout.

Did you know that LEV has 90 members? It is true, but I see maybe 6-8 ever post. Oh no! So tell your friends, too. Make it your online home away from home, and recruit!

LOVE AMERICA, LOVE LEV!
O0000H YEAH
LOVE IT LIKE A PUPPY
FEED IT, IT'LL GROW!
PLAY WITH IT TO MAKE IT HAPPIERRRRR
LEV LEV our HAPPY HOME ON THE WEB!

Thank you.
Sol

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Well, I've convinced my grandmother to give my mom enough money to put a down payment on a condo. Rents are so high where mom is living that it doesn't make sense to rent while the real estate prices are actually reasonable. The only good thing about her old place is that it was dirt cheap, but she didn't have a lease, so the landlord then has the right to kick you out at any time- which is what's happening.

And Sol I promise not to bite the newbies =)

By The Chosen One (Buffy) on Unrecorded Date:

Hi eveyone- I am rather sadned... My favorite Great Aunt had died and gone to a better place... So Fred and I will be in the Rochester Area this weekend.... I am trying to make the arangements.... Sol- I left a message on your machine I am trying to find a place for us to stay to reduce the cost... so I would hope to see you guys this weekend ... :( *tear drops*

Buffy

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

My condolences =(

*hugs*

By The Chosen One (Buffy) on Unrecorded Date:

Nat-

Thanks...


Buffy

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

All hail, kowtow, and other wise humble yourselves. The great and powerful Lord of the Known Universe is 3 today. Make ye offerings (stocks, bonds, precious metals, and jewels are all good ;)to appease his mightiness and deflect his wrathful ire, he can be awful cranky if he missed his nap.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

How about cookies? can I offer him cookies? Or does he need another sketch pad?

By Margravine (Ranger) on Unrecorded Date:

**thundering voice** We acknowledge the rightness cookies (no raisins,however) as an offering. You will be smiled upon.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Yes Lord!

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Wow, it's like a ghost town in here today... What gives? =) I need some lunch-time entertainment.

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Sorry promotion means more work and more work means less Lev(or anything else for that matter. The scary thing is that I'm acctually in charge of the store tommarrow.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Oh cool, so like you won't say anything if I shoplift when I come visit your store, right ;)

So what kind of goodies do they have in your store?

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

Oh you know computer games. Every current console and relevent games. Video cards, sound cards, palm pilots, etc. etc. etc. (what is this etc.?) Today is inventory so my Boss and the rest of the manegment staff is there as I type this diligently(Snicker) working (howl, hoot, holler). But I can't wait, tommarrow I get my new glasses and then open the store again. Anywho, see ya guys on the other side of eternity cause I hear the drums a comin and the fun's beginin'. (Don't ask please for the love of God, DON"T ASK!)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

I just checked my Hotmail account and found this forwarded to me by my sister. I thought it was kinda cool.

"It doesn't interest me what you do for a living. I want to know what you ache for, and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing. It doesn't interest me how old you are. I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love, for your dream, for the adventure of being alive. I want to know if you can see beauty even when it is not pretty every day. If you can source your life on the edge of the lake and shout to the silver of the full moon "Yes!" It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied. I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away. I want to know if you can be alone with yourself and if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments."

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

That was very sensual writing. I'm gonna grab a copy of that and save it for inspiration =)

So what's your store's price for the geforce 2? And how about the geforce 3? I'm thinking about upgrading from my geforce 256 ddr. And do you guys carry the handspring visor edge in chrome?

Are your glasses a new perscrition or just new 'cause u needed em? I'm bored.. Talk to me.

I'm trying to learn more about progamming with Lingo in Macromedia Director. Goddamnit! I'm a lover not a programmer!

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

Woo hoo! I'm gonna be in Rochester this weekend to see a few friends of mine graduate, then we go to Niagara Falls for a girls night out- "operation pants" lives again! I shall be naughty, as it is my nature. The place we're going to has some tasty male strippers, and it's only $10 Canadian for a lap dance with none of those ridiculous nudity laws they have in the US =) First we're going to the casino, but worry not! I'll be saving my money for the lap dances and NOT the blackjack table =)

By Vengence is Mine (Knight_hawk) on Unrecorded Date:

GeForce 2 I think is between 100-130. The GeForce 3 I'm pretty sure is 300. As to the third part probably not seeing as I've never heard of it.

New glasses because I needed new ones, as the old ones anti scratch protection was flaking off of it. My new glasses are thinner than my old ones and the frames are Titanium, they change into sunglasses in sunlight as my old ones did but these have the antiglare coating on'em.

Nat remember, to indulge is human to over indulge is your own d@mn fault.

By Subcriminal (Nat) on Unrecorded Date:

I've always been one to over indulge =) and I never regret it =)

With budget contraints I think I'll have to settle for the geforce 2 instead of the geforce 3. Curses!

The handspring edge is a very cool, slender and rechargeable palmtop- you mentioned that they've got palm pilots so I figured I'd ask =)